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Alien Sex Fiend interview conducted in january of 1996 via tape & mail.

ASF has been around forever & I don't know how to classify them.  At times it seems like they are to dance music what the Misfits are to punk rock.  Check out there song "Coma."

QRD – Alien Sex Fiend used to be referred to as "batcave," then "gothic," & now "space rock." is there any category of music you would like to stay in or do you like people to have trouble keeping you classified?

Mrs. Fiend – I think that journalists often like to be able to categorize music because I think itís probably very difficult to actually describe styles without being able to use a category. so I think itís something that we have to put up with really; thereís not much way you can change it. & itís quite nice if people have trouble keeping us classified. thatís always good. difficult to pigeon hole, we like that.

Nik – we can be anything you like really.

Mrs. Fiend – Alien Sex Fiend really.

Nik – yeah, as long as somebody calls us something, even if itís shit, & they write about it & spread it, right?  then thatís cool.

Mrs. Fiend – "as long as they spell my name right," as they say. but the category weíd really like to stay in is Alien Sex Fiend music really. cause that covers it all, doesnít it.

QRD – what country are you most popular in?

Mrs. Fiend – everywhere really. it doesnít seem to be one place where you can say, "oh, weíre gonna do 10,000 people there," & another one where youíre likely to get 200 people or something. it varies. you find that even in the states there are more people coming to shows in new york or LA than say Tulsa. but thatís more to do with the number of people that actually live there. so it doesnít really matter.

Nik – doesnít matter where it is, it just seems to be a turn on for a lot of people isnít it.

Mrs. Fiend – mm-hmm.

QRD – youíve had a lot of stuff released in 1995, three cdís on Cleopatra & some appearances on compilations, is your popularity growing with the speed & immensity of a runaway freight train?

Nik – no, itís the people who press the records up! their enthusiasmís running away like a freight train to me! lots of different compilations all of a sudden. weíve had ten, I think, in the space of as many months.

Mrs. Fiend – I donít know, Iíve lost track. thereís something out every few months almost. thereís a new one that came out on Dino Nectar Masters or something, Songs from a Black Planet. & Dinoís kind of a tv compilation company & theyíve just obviously decided to jump on the bandwagon, for want of a better word, the "gothic" band wagon. there just seem to be a lot of those kind of compilations coming out.

Nik – Jungle & Mick Mercer were first &....

Mrs. Fiend – the Gothic Rock stuff.

Nik – yeah, & they did it really well with a book & everything. & then since then itís been like a fucking endless turnover of interest from all different types of people. I must add that we donít always have control over these compilations coming out.

Mrs. Fiend – all it can mean is they must be selling or these companies wouldnít keep putting them out. the Cleopatra thing was a little bit different, because we were involved with that one quite closely. someone else picked the tracks, picking out what was hard to get in america. like Back to the Egg because that album wasnít released in the states at all, which we didnít realize. a couple of other things, like Stuff the Turkey, were hard to get & we werenít aware of that. so it was good that someone else actually chose them, but we were involved in the artwork & the liner notes & stuff. that was a bit different, because not every album is available in the states, weíre aware quite a few people are missing big chunks of their collection & itís always more expensive to get stuff thatís only coming in on import, weíre aware of that & do try to get records out.

Nik – Brian at Cleopatra encouraged it to be something different & it wasnít just sorta what you would call a generic slap it out, like thatíll do. it was all done with sort of love & attention & a lot of back & forward faxes & artwork from us going out to him & also he was dealing with other people to put the tracks together & stuff. but I thought they were pretty good compilations because for anybody who hasnít heard but one or two Fiend bits, but never bought a record before, they wouldnít be upset with it. itís just loads of different stuff on there.

Mrs. Fiend – I donít know about "speed & immensity of a runaway freight train," though. itís chugging along quite nicely thank you, thatís what weíll say at the moment.

QRD – what bands would you like to tour with?

Mrs. Fiend – we did one time fancy doing stuff with the Cramps, but....

Nik – that didnít happen, that was two or three times.

Mrs. Fiend – but that was years ago.

Nik – Divine.

Mrs. Fiend – we would have loved to tour with Divine, that wouldíve been great. I donít know really. itís kind of difficult because a lot of bands seem to not want us supporting them! there seems to be a kind of problem. you get Alien Sex Fiend on & itís like, "how can anyone follow that really?" with the whole show, the lights, the immensity of the whole thing is kind of too much to get followed somehow. so thereís not many people who would like to have us supporting them. Alice Cooper was brave though, but we couldnít do the whole stage set. we could only play for half an hour. so it doesnít really count. I donít know, as far as support bands go, as long as theyíre pretty good. it would be quite nice to do something with some of these dance groups coming up like Drum Club & System Seven & something entirely different. a whole different thing, I quite fancy that.

Nik – hmm. I donít know, I think that weíre unto ourselves as an entity. weíre a bit like when we enjoy going to see the Orb. I always think Alien Sex Fiend is a bit like that anyway. one thing merges into another. wherever thereís djís playing or thereís tapes or thereís music that weíve prepared before & then you get the show. & the show can go out to all different areas as well. Iíd rather do like Mrs. F said, like mix with a weirder different perspective on it rather than just some normal rock & roll cabaret shit.

Mrs. Fiend – it can get a bit boring when itís band finish band finish kind of stuff.

Nik – yeah. rock & rollís great & all that, but thereís plenty of people doing it, so weíre just doing our own weird little show & I think that itís going to have to be different. I think when we did the Zillo festival it was a different emphasis put on different stuff than in its early days.

Mrs. Fiend – we had a dj playing Inferno stuff first & I then started playing keyboards over the planet two mix he was djing with. because I knew that mix so well, I could just start playing over top without really thinking about it. so then as Nik appeared there was a huge cheer because they realize, "itís Alien Sex Fiend," & bit by bit the rest of the band appeared. so the whole thing was kind of seamless & that was quite good. & we tried to reduce the gap between songs, kind of merge one song into another so it was like a whole piece as opposed to stop-cheer-next song. that was really good. that was the first time weíd done it that way. weíll see next time that a show comes up for us to do, weíll just see & take it from there I think.

QRD – my friend Berry had a question, why did you choose "Echoes" to cover on the Pink Floyd tribute?

Nik – why not?

Mrs. Fiend – there is a story behind it, because we did look at doing "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" first.

Nik – yeah, several of Floydís songs.

Mrs. Fiend – what was the other one? "Careful with that Axe Eugene." we quite fancied doing that.

Nik – the weirder more sorta trippy flowy type stuff.

Mrs. Fiend – but because there was a whole load of bands doing different covers it was like once a band had picked a particular track....

Nik – no one was going to do "Echoes" because it was about a half hour long!

Mrs. Fiend – exactly!

Nik – itís one side of a vinyl album long from the seventies or something.

Mrs. Fiend – the other bands had picked tracks that we were like, "ooh, that wouldnít be bad." but theyíd already kinda got first dibs on them so we were like, "oh, no." so we had to get this whole load of Pink Floyd stuff & we spent ages listening to all these Pink Floyd tracks. & Nik was kind of going, "I canít sing that," because some of the lyrics are kind of inky-pinky-dinky-winky kind of hippie.

Nik – hippie-trippy. but then we thought, "sod it!" we did it our own way.

Mrs. Fiend – basically we had to find something with lyrics that Nik could get his teeth into a bit because heís got to get into it a bit. & musically something that I could get my teeth into. so basically, "Echoes" was the only one that had both those sides, the problem was that itís half an hour long & it has loads of tempo changes & everything. so we really kind of just had to tear the whole song apart & see what was there. it was a very interesting experience. & it was the first time we worked with Dave Dearnaley on guitar, so that was cool. he did a good job.

Nik – everybody did a good job. I mean the whole recording session was brilliant. I think the sound on it was really great. & I think we did justice to it because it doesnít really, to a certain extent, sound fuck all like Pink Floyd!

Mrs. Fiend – which is good. thatís what I like about cover versions.

Nik – take the idea further instead of just sounding like them.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah. I canít see the point. if weíd tried to sound like Pink Floyd, we wouldíve failed miserably. because they probably recorded it in an enormous studio with weird spring reversed backward echo things that you canít even buy now because it was 1971 or something when it was originally recorded. itís just hopeless trying to sound like that.

Nik – but the song isnít just a load of geezers going off on one, smoking fifty spliffs each laying in a corner type approach like I thought it was. itís very worked out.

Mrs. Fiend – we were quite surprised, because we thought the original track did sound like they were just, as the expression goes, noodling. like the guitar was just noodling & they were all just kinda having a bit of a jam with it & noodling basically. but when you really strip it down, itís like a very very strong verse chorus verse chorus type structure. we had to lose one of the verses because it wouldíve been too long. I think the whole thing had to be under about seven & a half minutes long for Brian at Cleopatra to actually fit it on the cd.

Nik – we were going to do mixes as well, but the u.k. record company, the old wanker record company, decided in their own infinite shagging stupid fucking wisdom not to give us a couple more quid, pounds, sterling so we couldíve done god knows what with that. so instead we did it with "Evolution."

Mrs. Fiend – we couldíve done a submarine mix & all that & we kept going, "ooh, that sounds great."

Nik – "Evolution" is kind of a throwback from "Echoes." from our frustration having not been able to take "Echoes" infinitely further.

Mrs. Fiend – this new 12" weíre putting out, "Evolution," that kind of ties up the "Echoes" thing; because like Nik says, we couldnít really do additional mixes. it was like, "go in, do ĎEchoes,í finish, get out. weíre on a budget." so "Evolution" was kind of a week in the studio going mad. no holds barred. itís the first time weíve really been able to do that. the rest of the time itís been, "you got to go in, do a single, you got two days to do an A & B side," or "you got a month or whatever to finish a whole album off," or "youíve got six hours in the editing suite to get something finished." so it was always pressure for you to actually come out with the finished item. so doing "Evolution" was really good. it was our own money, so we could go mad.

Nik – do what the fuck we wanted! if weíd come out with nothing other than just having had giggled for a week, that wouldíve been cool. (squeaking noise) my boots are squeaking.

Mrs. Fiend – heís rubbing his feet together.

Nik – yeah, Iím getting excited.

Mrs. Fiend – & also an interesting point is that Dan Zamini who was the engineer for "Echoes" track, he came & worked with us on "Evolution" as well. so that was really good. at the time of doing "Echoes," Dan did not show any signs of being a closet wibbler, a man severely into analog & wacky noises. there was no sign of this at all! he was very very sensible; he kept his sensible head on. & then we started "Evolution" & we said, "Dan, if you want to go mad, go mad." then it was like everything went weird. his other side came out then & he really had a good time, so that was good. so "Evolution" & "Echoes" kind of tie up there.

QRD – do you think a tribute to Alien Sex Fiend will come out?

Mrs. Fiend – I donít know.

Nik – I think it has, hasnít it? itís just called different names!

Mrs. Fiend – people steal ideas from a song & put a different name on it or sounds or whatever, samplers.

Nik – yeah, but we have had enough people go mental for Alien Sex Fiend, for whatever reason, over the last three years in particular. weíve met all these people – techno-heads, ambient people, etcetera etcetera, from whatever area of music – & theyíre all into Alien Sex Fiend, have been into it for ages & thatís really freaked our heads out because didnít know they cared &/or listened. I mean it....

Mrs. Fiend – it turns out weíve actually been quite responsible for a lot of dance music thatís come out.

Nik – sorta like we could take all the blame....

Mrs. Fiend – we couldnít take all the blame.

Nik – no, we couldnít take all the blame, but weíve had enough people credit us & respect is due & all the rest of it. we have sorta had people producing stuff that turns our heads on. so thatís the whole reason for doing Alien Sex Fiend, not necessarily for just an album of covers or whatever of "R.I.P."

Mrs. Fiend – if somebody did it, Iíd like them to be really different versions, or maybe remixes would be cool. actually I think a remix tribute would be kind of cool. because it might be really difficult to cover some of our songs.

Nik – yeah, because we donít know what weíre doing!

Mrs. Fiend – sometimes the whole emphasis of the song is just on some kind of weird noise.

Nik – yeah, & that weird noise ainít at all gonna be in this fucking stratosphere in the near future.

Mrs. Fiend – we should see, send suggestions on a postcard please.

QRD – what constellation would you most like to be?

Mrs. Fiend – have to be cancer wouldnít it? seeing as weíre cancer people. probably have to be cancer, although cassiopeia would be quite good because itís a "W" shape & you can see it quite easily. itís easy to find in the sky.

Nik – venus

Mrs. Fiend – thatís not a constellation.

Nik – no, but his eyes were red & so was his....

Mrs. Fiend – penis.

QRD – what is the coolest suit jacket/sports coat you own?

Nik – my poodle jacket.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, Nikís got what calls his poodle jacket.

Nik – like a shaved poodle dog.

Mrs. Fiend – I donít know if it would be classed as a suit jacket or sports coat, but casual. itís a casual jacket, the jacket of choice.

Nik – my all nighter jacket.

Mrs. Fiend – & Iíve got this really really good padded jacket because itís very cold in england right now. itís one of those kind of tour type jackets. & itís very very warm & itís impossible to get cold with it on, the top half anyway.

Nik – theyíre both quite authentic looking.

Mrs. Fiend – theyíve been around a bit. well molded.

Nik – at the moment you kind of need every item of clothing you possess; itís so cold.

Mrs. Fiend – weíve got some interesting weather out here. Iím gonna stick the recorder out the window here (wind noises & banging). that bang was the door banging because itís like force nine gale out there. so thatís the weather & why weíre cozy in here.

QRD – what did you want to be when you were nine years old?

Mrs. Fiend – probably a nurse actually. I had a nurseís outfit.

Nik – yeah, so did I.... no, it was a Batman outfit. Batnurse.

Mrs. Fiend – you wanted to be Batman or Tarzan you told me.

Nik – yeah, I did. I used to wear my swimming trunks with two little pieces of fur at the front & the back. with a little belt around it & a little sharpened ruler. & no where to carry my money or sweets.

Mrs. Fiend – I bet you didnít play that in winter. that was a summer fantasy.

Nik – I can only remember one winter when it snowed loads.

Mrs. Fiend – I think I wanted to be a nurse. my dad has got somewhere this really ghastly photo of me in this terrible nurseís outfit. itís awful. Iíve improved since then.

QRD – whatís your favorite Alien Sex Fiend song?

Nik – all of them.

Mrs. Fiend – I donít know, I like "Evolution" in a way. itís always weird to try to look back & think what your favorites are. because, like Nik was saying the other day, you find yourself singing some lyrics or something & youíre like, "god, theyíre still relevant now & I wrote that like eight years ago or ten years ago or whatever." I think certain songs come back to you at different times. "Get into It" was really good when we played it at the Zillo festival.

Nik – yeah, theyíre all good for different reasons. otherwise we wouldnít have bothered doing them. none of them are commercial or going to be in the top thirty ever.

Mrs. Fiend – that wasnít the intention obviously with a name like Alien Sex Fiend. itís not like, "oh, Iím gonna be number one, top of the pops." that wasnít the intention really, the intention was more to like....

Nik – experiment.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, do anything, go mad & hope that the people like it. that was it. so itís very hard, like asking someone to name their favorite baby & theyíve got six kids. "which is your favorite child?" theyíve all got their own characters. they all mean something to you.

Nik – yeah, if you lost any one of them thereíd be an element missing from the collective.

Mrs. Fiend – we have to keep them all.

QRD – does the song "Coma" intentionally have so much deep metaphysical meaning? is 999 666 upside down?

Nik – now thereís a question.

Mrs. Fiend – you might not actually know this, but over in america if youíre in trouble & you need the ambulance or whatever you call paramedics, 911. whereas in england you actually call 999 whether thatís police, ambulance, fire, whatever. generally the emergency number is 999, so I donít know who wouldíve invented that, probably a government somewhere. so probably the governmentís responsible for that being 666 upside down.

Nik – yeah, but they do that donít they? pyramids & all the rest of it. the government knows all the symbolic meanings of things. enough said.

Mrs. Fiend – with a song like "Coma"....

Nik – itís a weird song, because that bloke came in when we were recording it & he was with this mad party & went, "do you take Eís?" & at the time we hadnít & didnít know what he was talking about. "blimey," he goes, "this is blinding." & he was wibbling all over the place & wibbled back out of the room again as they do. & I hadnít really thought about the connotations of it, because those lyrics were from 1984 & I had strange feelings then about what the fuck I was going on about. I still donít know what Iím going on about, but itís pretty cool that you can make all these ideas from one idea of a song. you know you can turn this upside down & itís 666. you turn this & nine is the number of blah-blah-blah, because Iíve gotten into numerology. itís just cool isnít it? thereís no meaning to fuck all. itís just a little story; journey things are what the songs are. thatís why we keep doing it I guess.

Mrs. Fiend – the lyrics are basically open to interpretation by whatever listeners & itíll mean one thing to one person & something else to someone else.

Nik – same as pictures. & it means fuck all to some people & thatís fine.

Mrs. Fiend – some think itís all rubbish or whatever & other people will start writing it all over their jackets & walls & stuff. so they mean different things to different people & I think thatís the same with poetry. if you read a poem then you can interpret it in different ways. itís the same with lyrics & sometimes, like Nik says, he doesnít really know what heís getting at. I think a lot of stuff in his brain, which is like a blender, a food mixer, & the same with the music really; it kind of whirls around in our heads & pops out, "plop," later on. & youíre like, "well what am I on about?" & two years later youíre like, "ah-ha." & it makes another sort of sense to you later on.

Nik – thatís why we keep doing it though basically. because we donít know what the fuck weíre doing or anything, but we enjoy it. so if we sat there & knew the theory of everything, weíd just sit there like we canít be bothered & stay somewhere warm.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, we donít rally analyze too much what it is; it all seems to come from somewhere else beyond us.

Nik – the only time we seem to think about anything like that is when weíre asked about it in interviews. otherwise weíre like, "this is ĎEvolutioní & this is what weíre doing"

QRD – what bands/music have been most influential & what are your current favorites?

Nik – thereís too many bands & stuff to mention & you always end up forgetting loads.

Mrs. Fiend – well, you know initial influences were things like the Cramps, but for me that was not the sound but more the fact they didnít have a bass player. the Cramps were nothing to do with drum machines, nothing to do with keyboards & synthesizers, but....

Nik – they were funny as well.

Mrs. Fiend – also thereís a girl in there & there werenít many girls around, Gillian of New Order & Ivy in the Cramps from what I can remember. the rest of the time if there was a girl in the band they were a singer. so that helped me.

Nik – the humor of them, they were great fun.

Mrs. Fiend – Iggy Pop who likes to stick to his gun. early on stuff like that, Suicide, Bauhaus, Killing Joke, Alice Cooper, that was early on but also mixed with stuff like Pink Floyd, Hawkwind, spacey stuff.

Nik – Rolling Stonesí Satanic Majestyís album & all that.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, & since then so much other stuff.

Nik – thereís shitloads of it.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, our record collectionís kind of gone off in all sorts of directions. & favorites now, what were you playing earlier?

Nik – I played Hallucinogen.

Mrs. Fiend – thatís Simon Posford who actually did some of the work on the oscar madness remix of "Inferno." itís massively long. itís seventeen minutes long on the double vinyl album.

Nik – weíve got one of "Evolution" now thatís thirty-two minutes

Mrs. Fiend – youíre forgetting the vocal version thatís fifty.

Nik – anything thatís good & we hear it, weíre up for it.

QRD – do you believe in extraterrestrial biological entities?

Mrs. Fiend --probably. I think theyíre out there somewhere.

Nik – I believe in everything really. you canít not believe in anything can you?

Mrs. Fiend – well, I reckon you go out there at night & you look up at the sky, all those stars, all those stars have got potential planets like our sun has. so you have to admit itís a bit outrageous & big headed for human beings to think theyíre the only intelligent life in the universe.

Nik – but most human beings are like that arenít they?

Mrs. Fiend – well, there may be a shock coming. & it would be really nice to think that theyíre more intelligent & more advanced than us. more higher conscious & less materialistic & evil & nasty. & theyíve figured out a way of not having wars or something, that would be cool. as long as they arenít like those ones in V, do you remember that? those lizard people, do you remember that thing? as long as theyíre not like that.

Nik – they canít be any worse than what human beings are anyway.

Mrs. Fiend – those lizards in V were pretty nasty eating everybody.

QRD – are there any particular authors who influence you or your music?

Nik – William Burroughs I think had a big effect on me, whatever it was.

Mrs. Fiend – I like a lot of science fiction, anything with space ships. not really sword & sorcery & fantasy, but spacey stuff. other planets, that kind of thing, I like all that. & I like Franz Kafka, just kind of weird. & the Gormenghast trilogy by Mervyn Peake, quite trippy.

Nik – weíre influenced by everything really. comics, like Mister X is a really good comic. Stray Toasters which is completely mental & out the window.

Mrs. Fiend – Bill Sienkiwicz.

Nik – thereís so much of it.

QRD – what do you use for the missile effect on "Now Iím Feeling Zombified?" I have a keychain that makes a similar noise.

Nik – probably one of them then.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, I think it was a little thing, where did you get that Nik?

Nik – from a service station, Benny had one & I kept pinging it.

Mrs. Fiend – we sampled it up didnít we?

Nik – Iíd run out of words & then just set it off.

Mrs. Fiend – so, yeah, itís probably exactly the same thing youíve got.

QRD – do you have a chemical influence of choice?

Mrs. Fiend – well, what are we sitting here with now? a cup of tea.

Nik – a cup of tea, cigarettes.

Mrs. Fiend – a cup of tea, cigarettes, I think thatís probably most of the time.

Nik – chemicals as well, now & then.

Mrs. Fiend – now & then, but nothing too heavy really. not nasty stuff. I think we really look upon it....

Nik – as a bit of a treat.

Mrs. Fiend – we look upon it like that book, Recreational Use.

Nik – too much of anything is not good for the old wig.

Mrs. Fiend – well, yeah. the head is going to get severely screwed up if you do to much of anything. probably could drink too much tea.

Nik – you donít have anytime to reflect if youíre completely monged off your tree all the time.

Mrs. Fiend – we knew somebody who was spliffing all day every day. like chain smoking cigarettes. & really it was having no effect in the end. so it was kind of weird because his reality actually became a stoned thing if you see what I mean. his reality was not reality at all. & so when he stopped, because he realizes he was getting a bit lost, normal life was more sort of weird than... you know what I mean. so be careful out there kids, thatís all I can say.

QRD – whatís the biggest crowd youíve ever played for?

Mrs. Fiend – thatís about 10,000 I think.

Nik – yeah, 10,000 in spain & in Zillo festival in germany.

QRD – are you involved in any side projects?

Mrs. Fiend – not now. Inferno was kind of a side project.

Nik – we did Inferno & The Bat Cave Tapes album. we had to get all the dusty cobweb tapes out & find different takes that hadnít been used before & the Cleopatra stuff. I was doing paintings for them too. so actually we have been quite busy with the normal fiend world! & I think with "Evolution" setting the record label up, itís very hard to find time other than just to work on Alien Sex Fiend & the record label. get all that going & do some more mixes. you know, do some things that want to do with that, so our side projects are Alien Sex Fiend.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, I think weíve done enough side project things. so now weíve got to work on running the 13th Moon label, getting the "Evolution" 12" out, getting the cd album version of that out, which will be a few months, & then weíve got ideas for a proper Alien Sex Fiend studio album.

Nik – thatíll be coming out september/october.

Mrs. Fiend – yeah, we hope so. cause weíre really concentrating on pure Alien Sex Fiend at the moment. & hopefully doing some shows this year & concentrating on that as opposed to getting diverted from that. which really we have been diverted from that for a few years with the live album (Altered States of America) & the Batcave album & Inferno.

Nik – yeah, but we wanted to be diverted though. because for ten years we were touring. which was no problem & we donít have any regrets about it. but we, like all people, not so much need a holiday as much as to be in one place for longer than ten days! for ten years all the time we were continually all over the u.k., all over europe, all over america, canada, japan, & stuff. & in between that filming videos & recording. so were never actually anywhere for long & we wanted to put some roots down. get shit sorted out. find out what we want to do & get back on course. which we now seem to be underway, first step taken, big step & all.

QRD – is there anything else important going on right now?

Mrs. Fiend – "Evolution" really & 13th Moon, the record label.

Nik – thatís what we really want to do, so thatís what weíre concentrating on. when we did Inferno we were contractually bound to a record company. we were still under obligations to the computer company, Ocean Software, so we couldnít actually move or do anything until they deemed it was ready. so we ended up getting caught up in a lot of contractual shit.

Mrs. Fiend – it was delayed by about a year past what they originally planned. so that meant that we couldnít actually put Inferno the album out. & it wouldíve been a lot easier if theyíd said....

Nik – "get on with your life, weíll give you a ring in a years time!"

Mrs. Fiend – then we couldíve done something! but what happened was it was delayed for a month, then two months, then three months.

Nik – but we were still mixing all that time.

Mrs. Fiend – but each time it was delayed for a few months. so when theyíre like, "oh, itís going to be out in a couple months," thereís no point in starting to put a new Fiend album out because once thatís ready, itís going to follow the Inferno thing. & they just kept delaying, & thatís the story of that, so now with our own label weíre sort of totally in control of our own destiny. as much as one can be! so we just keep our fingers crossed that the whole thing works.

Nik – Iím just happy that weíre doing our own thing. we donít actually have any stipulations put on us & itís proven to be successful because it feels successful to us. at any rate, with what weíve learned since í92 coming off the road full time, weíve been able to get a new lease on life, & a new perspective being able to read & experiment & learn & do different things. & therefore make Alien Sex Fiend still interesting instead of just plopping along basically until it got fucking ridiculous. I think we had to break things up & stop & do something where we got our energies back. & do that in a positive direction. it was getting, not tired, but....

Mrs. Fiend – sort of predictable. & the minute it becomes too predictable, itís too safe. & if anythingís too safe it starts getting, not boring, but safe, you know.

Nik – itís a bit like a supermarket approach. what they did was stock the shelves with the same things every time at the same time each year with the same size & not really be bothered about it. whereas we do care about what weíre doing. & we found we were doing all this work anyway, on behalf of Cherry Red, who just put the thing out. & then we couldnít get copies of our records or cdís for people to review or for our friends or people who worked on them or for anything.

Mrs. Fiend – it was just getting crazy really.

Nik – so we had to create our own little weird world even more so.

QRD – if you were a cold medicine, what kind would you be?

Nik – Tixlix!

Mrs. Fiend – I donít know if they have that in america. thatís a cough mixture.

Nik – it kisses your throat.

Mrs. Fiend – itís for babies. I know what Iíd be, my patent cold remedy: honey, lemon....

Nik – brandy.

Mrs. Fiend – whisky. youíd have brandy in yours Nik. Iíd have whisky in mine. that would do me nicely.

Nik – just stay in bed & have a big spliff going on!

QRD – if you were the child of god, what would you say to get a date?

Nik – well, I am the child of god! we all are arenít we?

Mrs. Fiend – yes, but what would you say to get a date?

Nik – to get a date? what, with god?

Mrs. Fiend – no, I think with somebody. I think thatís what he means.

Nik – my bellyís rumbling. no, vampires never eat.

Mrs. Fiend – what would you say to get a date though? "Iíve got a big one?"

Nik – "I got a big knob & I know god." "what star sign are you baby?"

QRD – how long have you been planning to form your own label? is it really worth the extra work?

Nik – well over a year, weíre getting ready to mix the next record as well. which is & has been brilliant. but mixing & everything else & getting this off the ground, of course itís fucking hard work. everythingís hard work isnít it!

Mrs. Fiend – whether itís worth it or not weíll only know afterwards. "Evolution" isnít out until february 12th, so once itís out & itís in shops, because we got distribution & export & all that tied up. itís all in place already, so hopefully there shouldnít be too much difference between getting 13th Moon release & the Cherry Red ones. it should be in the same shops; itís being dealt with by the same companies. so until thatís out & thatís selling, weíre not going to really know if the extra work is worth it. because obviously we have to sell records in order to make the next one. but so far so good. it used to be that we had to do a lot of work around a release anyway with Cherry Red, so so far it hasnít really made a lot of difference. weíve taken quite a bit of time. itís taken like three months or something like that to get pressing sorted out, distribution, bar codes, all the legal stuff you have to do.

Nik – copyrighting.

Mrs. Fiend – application for license to manufacture, all sorts of strange things that you know nothing about when you start. so itís been quite a while working it out, I think. when did we decide to definitely do it?

Nik – july.

Mrs. Fiend – in july, we called up the record company & the publishing company to make sure that we were free of all legal obligations. & basically they said, "yeah, you are now clear." so at that point we went in & recorded "Evolution," so we had the material, we knew we could make a record from that.so, okay weíll set up the record label. one of the hard bits was thinking of a good name., it took ages. & the next hard one was working out a catalog number that didnít confuse our label with anyone elseís. about three days in a row Iíd call a guy whoís in charge of this kind of stuff & say, "can you check full, dark, blue?" & heíd go, "no, no theyíre taken." go back to him the next day with another three variations. so eventually we settled on full. the first one is full t for twelve inch 001. but we thought about doing a label around Inferno, the only problem with that was the computer company was expecting it to be a rather nice package, a good lot of color artwork, the whole thing had to sort of match up to their game. & also they wanted release in the states & germany & so on. it wouldíve been rather a lot to do. & I think whatís really cool about doing it now is, because of the opinion poll amongst fans, twelve inch vinyl was there preferred format over all & cd for album. so it meant we could start off things with just one format, get distribution in place, set up all the things I mentioned, like bar codes, bit by bit gradually without really going completely crazy racing trying to get something in. so just fingers crossed really. as long as it keeps going as well as it has been so far we will be around for a while.

Nik – laughing.

Mrs. Fiend – weíre not finished yet. this is the start of the new era. the new Fiend era. the "Evolution" starts here & all that, so off & running. I think weíre nearly at the end of the tape, so weíll say, "cheery bye Brian."

Nik – cheery bye Brian.

Mrs. Fiend – hope you can understand all this!

Nik – of course he can, heís got ears hasnít he?

Mrs. Fiend – say "hello" to america.