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QRD #33 - the Father's Day issue - June 2007
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Martin Bowes of Attrition
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Peter Ulrich of Dead Can Dance
Aaron Molina of If Thousands
D.A. Sebasstian of KSK
Alan Sparhawk of Low
Shane Sauers
Rune Flaten of Origami Arktika
Tore Boe of Origami Republika
Chris Olley of Six by Seven
Timothy Renner of Stone Breath
Patrick Ogl of Thanatos
Mats Gustafsson of Broken Face
Jason Wallach of Unquiet Void
Chris Wade of The Wades
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Dan Sostrom of Tonevendor
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Interview with Pat Ogle of Thanatos
May 12, 2007

Pat Ogl has always been one of those “tell it like it is” rockers.  When I was a kid & met him on tour he said things like, “Anyone who wants to make money touring’s a moron.”  Now it’s ten years later & Pat is still just telling it like it is.

Name: Patrick Ogle
Band: Thanatos
Website: http://www.patrickogle.com

QRD – How old were you when you first realized you wanted to be a professional musician?

Pat – I never really did want to be one.…  I was sort of a quasi-professional... made money, but never a LOT.…

QRD – What are a few highlights of your musical career?

Pat – I really enjoyed our tours in the South.  Always had a great time in Texas.  Aside from that, oddly, the release of my lowest selling record I Am Not Job.…  For personal reasons it seemed like that record would never even get done... but it did.  It was miraculous... William Tucker died, I moved, I was broke... then I cut my hand & required surgery... etc. etc... but it got done.

QRD – At what age did you decide you wanted to become a father?

Pat – I always wanted to in some abstract way.  In part because of the respect & love I had for my Dad.

QRD – What are some positive & negative impacts your family has had on your career?

Pat – They have always been supportive if not overly so.  I remember my Dad telling me that he had three things he had wanted to be, a writer, a painter or a teacher.  He became a teacher but he still painted (covers of three of my records are by him).  He said he knew now he could have done any of them & that I needed to do what I felt I should regardless of money, what anyone else said... etc.  I am not someone in need of a lot of support & backslapping though.  My SON is very pleased with the idea I did music.  His mom thinks it is a waste of time.

QRD – What are some positive & negative impacts your career has had on your family?

Pat – Can’t think of a single thing.

QRD – Have your children effected the music you make &/or listen to?

Pat – Not really.  I have, for years, wanted to record some music for kids.  My son, when he was really little, had a strong liking for The Ramones & David Bowie.

QRD – Have you had problems with the lack of steady money from a musical career providing the security you feel necessary in your household?

Pat – I have always had a lack of money, but that has little to do with music.  I do not do music as my CAREER really.  The thing is you can make it work & using a family as an excuse to not do music is just that ? an excuse ? & a sorry one because you will wind up blaming the people who should be closest to you for your NOT doing music.

QRD – Given the limitations having a family has on being a touring musician, would you have toured more earlier in life if you’d known?

Pat – I would have toured more regardless.  I would tour now if anyone gave a shit about my music!

QRD – Do you think being a father or a musician has a greater impact on your community?

Pat – No.

QRD – Would you rather see your son eventually become a musician or parent?

Pat – I want him to do what he wants to do, what he finds he loves.  What I WANT him to do is meaningless.  I would like him to play an instrument because I think that opens up new ways of thinking… whether you use it to make your own music or not.

QRD – Both family & music seem like things that will take up as much of your time as you’re willing to put in.  How do you end up dividing your time?

Pat – I always do music sort of when inspiration hits & I rarely play live these days.  I have had no problem with scheduling.

QRD – Do you have a split/secret life between being a parent & being a musician?

Pat – Not at all.

QRD – What does your son think of your music?

Pat – He likes stuff a little more rocking than what I do!

QRD – Do you think you could ever do a musical project with your son?

Pat – Sure… that would be fun.

QRD – Any words of advice to young people?

Pat – Whatever you do... do not let yourself get old.

Another QRD interview with Pat:
Thanatos interview (december 1996)